York Deaf club is somewhere I would consider to be my second home, especially when growing up.
In the 80’s and 90’s the place was always heaving, Saturday nights were always a social night where deaf people from far and wide would come and visit their friends, have a drink, a natter and play bingo.
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In the 90’s my mum ran a very popular youth club in the sports hall every Friday night, we played indoor hockey, basketball, football and in the summer months we went outside to play sports.
It was a lifeline for the deaf youth of York, and the youth club had in excess of 12 deaf kids all coming along. Now, that doesn’t sound like many people but when they had somewhere to hang out, play sports and chat about their week it was an extremely important night in the dairies of these kids, including myself, and all of us are still friends some 20 years later.
Then things changed for some reason. Over time, the atmosphere died and people generally lost interest and moved to other deaf clubs like Hull and Leeds.
In recent times, a new social group called Jorvik connections (JDC) has been established. The group is made up of younger members who say they no longer feel welcome at York Deaf Society anymore and decided to move on and set up their own club.
The building which held York deaf society was the society’s main asset, a beautiful Georgian grade II listed building called Bootham House which is situated in the centre of York.
It has four floors and a sport hall connected to the rear of the main building. Unfortunately the financial situation got so dire that the club needed to be sold. Efforts were made to keep the club going, however it proved impossible and the decision was made for the building to be sold.
After a short time of being on the market it was sold for a substantial amount of money. According to members of JDC the York Deaf Society’s committee decided that they would look for new premises and have purchased a three bedroom bungalow in a residential estate outside of York city centre, currently they have housed themselves within a temporary building which unfortunately does not permit people under the age of 16 entering.
Members of JDC feel they are not being provided with information, they feel they can no longer approach the committee nor can they dissuade them purchasing this three bedroom bungalow, even though the majority of people I spoke to say that the new building is not suitable for their needs.
JDC members say they have tried to approach the committee numerous times in an attempt to open negotiations but feel they are not being listened to and as such decisions are being made on their behalf.
JDC’s membership has grown rapidly, you can find them on Facebook and twitter, the group meets every other Friday in a family friendly pub. The group already has in excess of 40 active members, having spoken to them they are clearly not happy with the decision being made on ‘their behalf’ and have called for York Council to investigate the funding provided to the York Deaf Society.
The JDC members explained that they have serious concerns that the new premises would not be able to accommodate the wider Deaf community, especially children, and that this current course of action being undertaken by the Society completely disregards the needs and requirements of the wider Deaf community. They also say that York Deaf society are focusing solely on the wishes of a very small cohort of Deaf people who are the current members.
JDC have set up a petition and open letter to York council asking for them to investigate this matter. On Thursday 9th October 2014 JDC’s Chairman Danny Dorney attended a Public participation meeting at Guildhall York and gave a presentation to Council representatives asking for the council to investigate York Deaf society (see the YouTube clip by clicking here, and going to 22.47 mins in) The result of which is that the council have agreed to investigate their financial situation.
I contacted York Deaf society and this is their response:
Unfortunately, due to the Deaf Society’s inability to maintain the cost and running of Bootham House, there was a collective decision by the Executive Committee to put it on the market. The sale was considerably delayed due to Nat West, originally National Provincial Bank, having mislaid the Deeds and so a new one had to be drawn up.
On 13th February 2014, prior to the sale in March 2014, members of the Deaf Society and non-members from the Deaf Community were informed by letter or through Facebook, and were consulted of the new premises the Society wished to purchase.
There was a majority vote and in April we made an offer. Early September 2014, after a delay with the Land Registry, 376A Huntington Road was finally purchased. As from February 2014 to September 2014 the Society’s Executive Committee never received any correspondence whatsoever from those who wished to dissuade them from purchasing the property.
The Social Club, initially for a short period of time, rented a room at the Acomb Conservative Club, which unfortunately does not allow children, for a few nights each month and to meet socially once or twice a month at the Carlton Tavern, Acomb, which does allow children before 8,00pm, but this stretched out with all the delay of the new deeds and the Land Registry.
Both the Society and the Social Club have never intentionally excluded children and in fact, the property was purchased with them in mind because of the back garden.
It must be remembered that the younger people left York Deaf Social Club some years ago, possibly due to the lack of sporting facilities and joined Leeds Deaf Club.
The older members were disappointed but accepted the situation. When Leeds Deaf Club closed and upon hearing Bootham House was to be put on the market, they returned, initially under the impression that their presence would save the day.
Anyway, they were made welcome as it was like the old days with the children running around, which evoked happy memories for the older members of their children who once played at the Club.
Not a mention has been made of the Resource Centre for Deafened People, a part of the Society for well over twenty years, which carry out a valuable service for those who are deafened or are becoming deaf.
The Society believes strongly that inclusion is of paramount importance and the Deaf Community can only grow and develop if all factions of the Deaf Community work together.
We hope that Jorvik Deaf Connections will be able to bear with the Deaf Society whilst the premises is renovated in order to accommodate the needs of the wider Deaf Community particularly the young, families and their children.
Matt Dixon is a campaigner for the rights of sign language users, a sign language interpreter and a member of the Spit the Dummy and Campaign for BSL Act Campaign Team. You can find out about Matt’s business by clicking here or follow Matt on Twitter @foreverbsl
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Gillian Stewart-Potts
November 4, 2014
Fair biased on both sides. Yeah it’s really sad to see that it’s split in 2 communities. I’m waiting to hear more from council to see if York deaf club have something to hide as there’s something fishy going on especially about funds. We know that York deaf club have funds for children’s sport activities but where is the activity? Nothing! So annoying. It’s a shame really because I know my son will love it. We will somehow sort it out properly to Match to any ages of their needs. We (jdc)Will of course welcome Oaps in our new club . The main thing of all is children’s activities and socialise is the most important to help them to understand their own identity and languages. Thanks for sharing it to limping chicken. Committee of JDC
Natalya
November 4, 2014
Wow, that’s appalling. Without inclusion of children a huge percentage of future members will be excluded and adult members will not remain part of the society because their families are not welcome. This is not rocket science, surely a child-friend venue is possible to find?
Clive Breedon
November 4, 2014
Hi I am the National Participation Officer for UK Deaf Sport. We are are aware that there has been limited opportunity to participate in Deaf Sport in York. York City Council have received money from the Inclusive Sports Fund to develop sports opportunities including deaf inclusion.
We are also working across the region (North Yorks, West Yorks, South Yorks) to set up a DEAFinitely Inclusive Network to develop more opportunities to play, coach and volunteer in sport.
UK Deaf Sport and our colleagues at City of York Council would very much like to support the development of sporting activities in the area.
If you would like our help and are prepared to be the link to your community please let me know via e mail participation@ukds.org.uk
Vicky
November 4, 2014
Hello everyone!
I am the Vice-Chairperson of the JDC in York.
Firstly, we would like to thank Matt Dixon and the Editors of the Limping Chicken for their very fair and balanced reporting of the situation in York.
We have been not happy about how things were run at the Society for some years and in June 2014 we decided to set up JDC which has proved to be very popular, with around 25 to 30 people regularly attending the social club every 2 weeks, We get new members almost weekly. 🙂
However, the Management Committee of the JDC were extremely concerned about the Society’s response to the article.
We would like to point out the following:
1) The Society did NOT inform everyone in York about the purchase of the bungalow, and certainly not on Facebook. I personally never got any letters from them and nor did Danny Dorney, the Chairperson and he is actually a fully paid up member of the Society and therefore is entitled to this information. Also there were NO proper consultation with the wider Deaf community in York at all.
2) The Carlton Tavern – we know nothing of this and there is no information at all on the Society’s website.
3) The bungalow the Society has bought is small and we are very concerned about whether there would be space for children to play. Having garden space outside is not good enough as the Society cannot expect parents to put their children outside in the dark in all weathers. We are not allowed access to see for ourselves what the bungalow is like.
4) The speculation that young people left the Society because of the lack of sporting facilities is questionable. The Bootham building had a full size hall with sport equipment. However, the Society refused to allow young people to play sports in the hall or use the equipment. Nor did they organise any sporting events for young people. Indeed, the only sports organised were whist drives, indoor gaming such as cards and dominoes and I personally were told NOT to bring my children to these events ‘because they would be distracting’.
5) On hearing that the Society faced closure, we did attempt to show support by attending social evenings. However, most of us accepted that closure was inevitable and wished to join the Society in finding a new venue and helping to create a new future with them. The response was literally ‘No point in you becoming part of the committees, we must think of those (pointing to the elderly members) loyal members first before you youths’. Plenty of young people witnessed that exchange and for many of us, that was the last time we bothered to attend the Society.
6) I am glad to hear that the older members were delighted to see children at the Society. Sadly that sentiment cannot be backed by their actions. They have not organised any activities for children in York for many years.
7) As for the Resource Centre for Deafened people, I only say this – ‘Where is it and when is it open?’ It is very difficult to get any information about the Centre as the Society’s website gives very little information about that.
8) Finally, we did attempt to contact the Society for some months after we were formed in June to try to have a friendly discussion about the future. They ignored all of Danny’s test messages. In the end we had no choice but to write a formal letter highlighting our concerns and hand delivering it to the Chairperson of the York Deaf Society on October 2nd at the bungalow. The video of that is on our facebook page and it shows what sort of reception we can expect from them which is ‘Get out of here, you are not allowed here’.
We still have not got a reply to that letter.
We hope that the Society will see that we only want a future for ourselves and the next generation in York and allow us to work with them to achieve that.
Thank you again,
Vicky Dixon
Chelsea
November 8, 2014
As JDC is a fairly recent new deaf club – bear in mind that in setting this up, you have sub conciously divided the deaf community too?
Vicky
November 9, 2014
Chelsea,
That is a fair comment and yes it was something that we took into consideration when we set JDC up. However,the Society has been lacking in so many things for so long and alienated a large section of the Deaf Community in York that we felt it could no longer continue. We need a safe place and the Society is not capable of providing it. You only need to look at the facebook profile and attend one of the social nights to see that far from dividing the community, we have succeeded in bringing the majority of the community together.
We have a policy of respecting other people’s choices and not going into a ‘them or us’ situation. We would love to work with the Society to deliver the best service possible for the wider Deaf community but sadly we cannot see that happening for as long as they continue to ignore us.
Thank you.
Elizabeth Ozcan
May 19, 2016
Hey I lived in the rooms on the top floor of bootham house for two years with college mates such fond memories sda to learn it hS been sold. Lived there 1983 to 85.