As I’m sure you’ve noticed, there’s soon to be an election in the UK.
One thing in particular that I’ve noticed is that lots of Deaf people seem to be voting UKIP (the UK Independence Party), or thinking about it.
To watch this article signed in BSL by Jen Dodds, click play below:
At first, I couldn’t understand why, then I thought about it and it made sense to me: Many Deaf people already feel let down, disenfranchised and insecure about things like the Access to Work cuts, difficulty in getting jobs and problems with benefits etc.
So, who to blame? The Government? They’re a bit too “untouchable” and difficult to challenge, so it’s easier to blame immigrants for stuff instead.
So, maybe that’s why UKIP is suddenly becoming popular. Or maybe it’s not. Either way, I’d rather focus on why I think people SHOULDN’T vote UKIP.
Personally, I can think of lots of reasons not to vote UKIP, but I’m going to focus on how I don’t think they’re a Deaf friendly party at all. In fact, I think they’re quite anti-Deaf.
Allow me to present you with five reasons not to vote UKIP…
- We all know that the Deaf community is traditionally richly varied and international – it doesn’t matter where we’re from or what colour our skin is; we’re all Deaf. If you go abroad, or meet a Deaf person who’s from another country, you can always find a way to communicate visually, even if you don’t share a language.I think we’re all proud of that, but I’m not sure that it’s something that UKIP would approve of. They’re actually doing the opposite, and causing arguments and divisions within the Deaf community.
- They didn’t bother to translate their manifesto to BSL. If there is a BSL translation, I haven’t seen it (I’d be interested to have a look, if there is one).In their General Election Special, See Hear asked Star Etheridge, the UKIP Disability Spokesperson, if they’d be translating their manifesto to BSL. She replied; “I’d like to.” That’s nice. Where is it, then?!
- When watching that episode of See Hear, Star Etheridge really stood out from the other three panellists as not knowing much at all about deafness. The stuff she said really made me cringe!The worst thing, though, was how she referred to a deaf child as “it” (I had to double check the subtitles there) – as in “give it hearing aids; give it sign language; give it… etc.”
I’d like to remind Ms Etheridge that we’re actually people.
- I’ve tried and tried, but can’t find any of UKIP’s disability policies (their manifesto hardly mentions disability either). It doesn’t really matter, though, because their prospective parliamentary candidates seem to be all over the place. Take my local UKIP candidate’s leaflet, for example…
It’s actually quite funny.
The main thing for me, though, is how so many UKIP people have been kicked out of the party, or have resigned, because they’ve made “inappropriate” comments, showing they’re racist and homophobic. This includes how they have said disabled babies should be aborted.
I dread to think about the type of people who are involved in UKIP; if they can say awful stuff like that, then what’s stopping them from saying it about Deaf people next time?
I don’t think they’d bring about a fair, inclusive and well thought-out future for the UK, do you?
Jen Dodds is a Contributing Editor for The Limping Chicken. When she’s not looking after chickens or children, Jen can be found translating, proofreading and editing stuff over at Team HaDo Ltd (teamhado.com). On Twitter, Jen is @deafpower.
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Sam
May 1, 2015
Absolutely! I’m still not entirely sure how I’ll vote, but you’ll never ever catch me voting UKIP.
Andrew
May 1, 2015
Thanks Jenny, very interesting. So who is the best party for Deaf people to vote for in your opinion?
MIck
May 1, 2015
Fair play Jen!!!!! Parties like UKIP play on people’s fears and are just full of hate. Good for you!
Tim
May 1, 2015
Good post, Jen!
The UKIP are just extreme Tories trying to take advantage of people’s anger. They are all about hate towards other people – often people who are in the same boat as us.
Just look at their “big” players – Nigel Farage, Douglas Carswell, Mark Reckless. Do you think they give a bath duck about Deaf and disabled people? Nah…
There are better options for making a protest vote count – Green Party, Plaid Cymru, SNP and socialist parties are examples.
niallb68
May 1, 2015
Well Done! It is not surprising that the UKIP loathes disableds, unemployeds & low paid earners
UKIP has failed to come up with ANY pragmatic solutions for UK economic, social and housing problems. They are totally obessesed & rant and blame on immigrants. They have forgotten a very important fact that the immigrants bring approx £40 million pounds on paying income tax and business tax into UK government coffers.
Also UKIP has disasterous proposals and suggestions on withdrawing UK from EU. This will certainly make UK much worse off, more poor, leading into thousands of job losses and businesses withdrawing their investments from UK. Early warning signs are now coming i.e. HBSS bank giant
Andy r
May 1, 2015
You are completely incorrect regarding your housing problem remarks. The institute of chartered surveyors recently praised their housing policy as being the first they had seen with a realistic prospect of solving the crisis. Also, they are the only party with any policy that addresses the need to stabilise the population – without that, the need to build new homes will never end, and the beautiful countryside we still have will be ruined.
Finally, the 40 million income tax you mentioned is dwarfed by the cost of needing to build the utilities to support an extra million people every 3 years – it’s like having to build Birmingham with all of its schools, hospitals, infrastructure, train people to operate it etc.. When you look at all the costs- and the loss of quality of life- open door immigration just isn’t worth it. A selective points based system makes far more sense.
Joe
May 1, 2015
Good post.
Added to that, if you hadnt registered to vote, then you don’t have any right to a voice. Protest vote, spoil your paper (if you think no parties are worthy of your vote), whatever, as long as you’re registered!
Tim, I dont think the Tories care much about Deaf or disabled either.
Tim
May 1, 2015
I agree Joe and I think the Liberal Democrats are well against Deaf and disabled people too. Time and time again they have propped up the Tories in their attacks on us; it’s the votes in Parliament that are telling.
JGJones
May 1, 2015
Spot on.
I should point out that UKIP’s manifesto state that they are 100% committed to Article 19 of UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. (it’s on page 23 of their manifesto here: https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/ukipdev/pages/1103/attachments/original/1429295050/UKIPManifesto2015.pdf?1429295050)
They are very clear about pointing out that they support just that Article 19 which is titled “Living independently and being included in the community” which is about being able to live in your home and getting around in the community but nothing more.
I have a problem with that. It mean that UKIP are not committed to any other articles which the full list is as below at http://www.un.org/disabilities/default.asp?id=259
…
Article 5 – Equality and non-discrimination
Article 6 – Women with disabilities
Article 7 – Children with disabilities
Article 8 – Awareness-raising
Article 9 – Accessibility
Article 10 – Right to life
Article 11 – Situations of risk and humanitarian emergencies
Article 12 – Equal recognition before the law
Article 13 – Access to justice
Article 14 – Liberty and security of person
Article 15 – Freedom of torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment
Article 16 – Freedom from exploitation, violence and abuse
Article 17 – Protecting the integrity of the person
Article 18 – Liberty of movement and nationality
Article 19 – Living independently and being included in the community
Article 20 – Personal mobility
Article 21 – Freedom of expression and opinion, and access to information
Article 22 – Respect for privacy
Article 23 – Respect for home and the family
Article 24 – Education
Article 25 – Health
Article 26 – Habilitation and rehabilitation
Article 27 – Work and employment
Article 28 – Adequate standard of living and social protection
Article 29 – Participation in political and public life
Article 30 – Participation in cultural life, recreation, leisure and sport
Article 27 – work and employment, this would be good to be supported as well since it would mean UKIP supporting Access to Work for starters but they don’t.
Article 5 – no discrimination – we all have experienced discrimination and know how nasty it is. Why don’t UKIP support that too?
I could go on, but really, take a look for yourself. The fact that UKIP will only support ONE article but none of the others for me is scary enough. They aren’t exactly giving any support to Access to Work and we know how vital that is.
Robert Webster
May 1, 2015
well done Jen! UKIP are far right wing as Tories as SAME boat!! remember Farage was ex Tories, Douglas Carswell, Mark Reckless, and rest of UKIP councillors! I’m sick of hate talks about religions, HIV suffer, Racist, I’m sick of this UKIP!! UKIP is dangerous. UKIP has supported by racist groups like Britain First, BNP, EDL, NF, English Democrats, NP, etc.. how I was disgusted! I have a long time Brazilian Partner of 6 years, I don’t understand that some UKIP Deafies Trolls has aggressive, bullies and abuses to Deaf people!!, Im very disappointed that!!
Martin
May 1, 2015
What about this part of UKIP’s Manifesto:
SPECIAL EDUCATIONAL NEEDS (SEN)
‘The policy of closing special schools will be reversed. Every child is unique and the needs of each child should come first. Those who learn better in a tailored, non-mainstream environment should have the opportunity to do so.’
Ben
May 1, 2015
To pick one of Jen’s points, Martin, BSL. We all know UKIP can talk the talk, it’d be nice to see them walk the talk too! 🙂 They were recently given £1m by a donor – the Express newspaper owner – and could certainly afford to follow Green Party, Labour and Liberal Democrats and provide their manifesto in BSL. But… 6 days before the election, a week after the postal vote, there’s still no BSL on their website. :/ Quite a few UKIP deaf people were saying on Facebook that UKIP didn’t need BSL information. That’s fine, but that means UKIP isn’t accessible for deaf people. For these reasons, you can’t really deny the view that UKIP isn’t a Deaf-friendly party.
Jen Dodds (@deafpower)
May 1, 2015
Martin, that doesn’t say a lot..?
Andrew, if I answered your question, we’d go way off topic… 😉
Bob Evans
May 1, 2015
UKIP has strong policies on disabilities. A manifesto is a fairly high level document so will not list out every disability
UKIP are certainly not anti deaf and you have no grounds for suggesting they are. You seem to be anti UKIP which you can be but making false claims about UKIP does you no credit at all
Ben
May 1, 2015
Bob, how do you think UKIP is accessible for BSL/deaf people? There’s no BSL material from UKIP at all 6 days before the election…
JGJones
May 2, 2015
Bob – UKIP’s history against disabilities suggest otherwise. Furthermore they make it clear that they are committed to just one article on rights for persons with disabilities. To date they have not answered any questions about the rest. If they really have strong policies then it shouldn’t be a problem to answer them.
See my comment above:http://limpingchicken.com/2015/05/01/jen-doods-why-ukip-is-not-a-deaf-friendly-party-bsl/#comment-49568
Can you answer them please? So far it’s not really false grounds – their last manifesto did label disabled people as parasitic scroungers – the history is already there. Claiming otherwise IS false.
Kate Kitchingman
May 4, 2015
Exactly and very well said Ben 😉
Jen Dodds (@deafpower)
May 2, 2015
Bob, I’d love to see UKIP’s strong disability policies. Does this include a policy to stop disabled people being born in the first place?
Sarah
May 2, 2015
When UKIP took over the County Council in Lincolnshire they decided to save money and stop translation and interpreting services. This didn’t just affect immigrants who don’t speak English but also meant that BSL interpreters were stopped too.
Rich
May 2, 2015
please read to see what they think about anti racism and disability. treat everyone equally – and who sustained from the vote…UKIP!!!
http://www.lincolnshireecho.co.uk/UKIP-members-Lincolnshire-County-Council-refuse/story-19015707-detail/story.html
Rich
May 2, 2015
and this is what Sarah was saying…
http://www.skegnessstandard.co.uk/news/local/ukip-county-councillor-proposes-scrapping-translation-services-in-lincolnshire-1-5084228
Oh Dear
May 2, 2015
I have never voted in my life. One simple reason, too intelligence to vote. Intelligent people are quite simply outnumbered by thick people who voted for the most stupid reasons. This blog and the following comments proves once again why i won’t be voting. Seriously you lot are living in fantasy la la land with no concept of reality and unable to see the big picture.
The three main parties have let down the disabled people in this country. The solution offered by Green, SNP, Plaid, etc are stupid and will not solve the problems facing us.
JGJones
May 3, 2015
You have that right to not vote. Still, it mean you don’t really have much grounds to complain when you’re stuck with a system you don’t want.
Intelligent people know that in order to get changes – you need to take action. It’s easy for anyone to sit in a chair and claim so and so. Talking the talk, but not walking the walk? The system don’t work, then do something. You’re intelligent enough to do that no?
tor
May 3, 2015
Good try Jen!! I have no intention of changing my mind to vote for other parties and I still vote UKIP like glue…UKIP is not a racist party, but a common sense party and bring our country back to where it should be!!!!!!
Kate Kitchingman
May 4, 2015
Very well said Tor 🙂
Bob B. Bobberson
May 3, 2015
Thanks for sharing! I feel this article is quite weak, relying on sensationalising. I don’t think it would convince anyone outside of the choir. The blogger gives the impression that she is trying to treat deaf people as a voting block to “guide” to the right party according to her opinion.
Just as with any other group of people, you would find a diverse set of beliefs in the Deaf community. The conflict of opinion leading to arguments is a natural conclusion which drives progress as faulty, weak ideas lose out to stronger ideas with more validity. That is not something to be suppressed or avoided, as she implies in her first point.
Kate Kitchingman
May 4, 2015
It’s totally full of rubbish as you are deffo ANTI UKIP…. Why you alway target on UKIP ONLY as what about Tory iain Duncan Smith as he murder many disabled people and other partie too so don’t judgement on UKIP only as you need think twice before you sent out with wrong information…. You shouldn’t sent this video to try make deafie people to make them fear to vote… Well tough i ain’t fall my neck on you with your twist mind… Now across Britain people can see the true colour what you are like… I am STILL vote UKIP cos I had enough immigrated take over our job and we can’t able to find job for years as i will be not suprised if someone take your job as i will be laughting stock at you… Stop judgement on UKIP as they never win election or PM before so how you can judgement them???…. UKIP have disabled people, they have 2 candidates profoundly deaf and wheelchair user also some candidates have family who are deaf too so how come??? Get your fact right before you sent this stupid video to try make people frightening tut tut shame on you!!!!
Rich
May 5, 2015
Kate do you use the NHS?
UKIP will tell you that they love the NHS, but read the private views of their leaders and then decide for yourself if our greatest institution is safe in their hands.
Nigel Farage UKIP Leader said ” I think we are going to have to move to an insurance based system of health care” that means you will have to pay for private insurance.
Paul Nuttall UKIP Deputy Leader ” I would argue that the very existence of the NHS stifles competition, and as competition drives quality and choice, innovation and improvements are restricted.”
Matthew Richardson – UKIP General Secretary ” The biggest waste of money of course in the United Kingdom is the NHS.” He went on to compare the NHS to Nazi Germany and called for it too be privatised.
Neil Hamilton – UKIP Deputy Chairman ” The NHS is a more effective killing machine than the Taliban”. [It is] a “soviet-style nationalised monolith” and a “Substitute for religion”.
UKIP claim immigration is the root of all our problems. Yet they are at pains to stress, unless we come out of Europe they would be able to do nothing about it. Their strategy is to make Britain unfriendly to migrants so they don’t come. Yet hard working people prepared to leave their home behind and travel here to work will not be frightened away by UKIP. But they may be driven into illegal, underground economy, where exploitation threatens to undercut wages. The real solution is to create greater equality between countries. Yet UKIP oppose measures to boost growth across all of Europe which would make population movements more stable. Meanwhile, ask yourself the question, how many people do you know who have left Britain to make a better life for themselves in Europe, or further afield like Canada or Australia?
UKIP see the issue of immigration as being about numbers. Yet global numbers don’t really impact on Local communities. It makes little difference if millionaires move into London. More foreign students, keeping our Universities funded is as good for the country as is more tourism. Our NHS depends on immigration, and has done since it was set up, especially as some people trained here take up the option of working abroad. Much of this immigration we need and the benefits are large and widely spread. The problem is the pressure points of immigration are often concentrated on working class host areas and the migrants themselves who are forced to share congestion, poverty and underfunded local services. Yet in other places in chronic decline due to de-industrialisation, new people save the area from row of empty houses. either way, it is precisely these poorer areas that give the wider country the benefits of immigration and those communities should have adequate housing, jobs and resources to cope. These communities are vital engine of our national growth and should be supported. UKIP are a party of cuts, not a party to deliver our areas from decline.
A UKIP distributor and voter
May 5, 2015
This article displays lies we face from the elite class pro-lib/con/lab jibe as I have read all of the above from other party supporters, none of what they state are true we do not need a UN res on human rights when we will have a British bill of rights that already will have anti-discrimination laws etc. we already have the DDA that ensures that non one with disabilities can be mistreated that already takes into consideration the Human Rights Charter on disabled people, we also have the equalities act on disabilities that enshrines the principles of Human Rights, UKIP are not anti-immigration but UKIP want to limit net migration not stop migration altogether, in countries like South Africa and Australia etc. if you want to live in these countries you already need a work visa and a residential permit why is that wrong that we want the same for the UK, the comments the people made are their own opinions and not representative of UKIP and UKIP as a party did not say they agreed on those views as an official position proves that they are using their freedom of speech as individuals, this also demonstrations that UKIP are ran by ordinary people and not politicians.
The person’s last comment
“Our NHS depends on immigration, and has done since it was set up, especially as some people trained here take up the option of working abroad.”
UKIP stated they want foreign workers who are trained doctors and nurses keep the NHS free at the point of delivery
– £3bn more invested in to NHS directed to frontline services this is false information I am reading on this blog concerning our NHS
UKIP stated will provide 20,000 new nurses, 3000 midwives and 8,000 GPs. UKIP will also invest in training, in equipment, in research. Now I don’t know about you, but I think that’s a much better way to spend our money than giving it over to the extortionate, out of touch, ‘members only’ EU club whose own financial profligacy is so out of touch that it hadn’t even had its own accounts signed off for the last nineteen years.
UKIP will invest funds into training more GPs, and encourage those who have left the profession to come back into work. UKIP is particularly keen to encourage the 40% of women GPs who leave the profession before the age of 40, back into the surgery. We will do this by allowing women to take time out from their five-year free tuition fee qualifying period to have families if they wish, and by not charging either women or men for their own re-training on returning to the profession.
To cut GP waiting times UKIP will also free GPs from the burden of unnecessary data collection, target chasing, revalidation and appraisal work that actively prevents them from engaging with patients.
These measures will ensure GPs can meet UKIP’s requirements to open surgeries at least one night a week and one weekend a month in order to meet demand.
There is also one area, that still isn’t spoken about enough, probably because the sufferers feel too ill and too vulnerable to make their voices heard when they are not getting what they need from the NHS. That is mental health.
UKIP recognises that the health of our nation is not just about physical health, but about our mental wellbeing too.
UKIP will:
• Increase funding for mental health services to improve and speed up access to treatment for both adults and children as part of our £3 billion injection into the NHS.
• Ensure there is capacity for all pregnant women and mothers of children under the age of 12 months to have access to specialist mental health treatment.
• Make sure clinicians take a ‘whole person’ approach to physical and mental health, signposting patients diagnosed with debilitating long-term conditions to local mental health services, and ensuring those diagnosed with a mental illness are given support.
And then, of course, there is the huge issue of dementia. Dementia is the biggest killer of women over the age of 55 and the fifth biggest killer of men, but research into the condition is woefully underfunded. With an ever ageing population, and more people than ever concerned about the effects of dementia, UKIP will ensure researchers receive the resources they require in order to tackle this disease effectively. We will pledge an extra £130 million per year to dementia funding.
Secondly, we will stop outright wastage and bad management.
We will stop up to £2 billion pounds being lost to the NHS every year through ‘health tourism’; foreign nationals who come to Britain specifically to get free NHS treatment or prescriptions, or who don’t pay their bills, or who are living in Britain only temporarily, or who are here illegally.
We will cut this bill by insisting migrants, students and visitors to Britain must have approved medical insurance: it’s not fair to expect British taxpayers to pay for foreign nationals to use the NHS. This is Britain: our NHS is the National Health Service, not the INTERNATIONAL Health Service.
• UKIP will not give NHS numbers to overseas visitors. Only once they have contributed through taxation for five years, will their requirement for health insurance expire.
UKIP had stated skilled foreign workers such as nurses would be given work permits it recognises the benefits of “limited, controlled” immigration. Work permits would be issued to fill skills gaps in the UK jobs market such as in the health service. But EU workers, who currently have the right to live and work in the UK, would face the same points-based system and time-limited work permits that currently applies to non-EU migrants.
Foreign health service professionals coming to work in the NHS will be required to speak English to “a standard acceptable to the profession” and they will be properly qualified for the job. The policy comes against the backdrop of a rise in the number of foreign nurses joining the NHS. Data from 103 English NHS hospital trusts show that 5,778 nurses were recruited from overseas in the 12 months to September 2014, with the largest numbers coming from Spain, Portugal, the Philippines and Italy. This compares with a figure of just 1,360 reported by 40 trusts in the previous year.
Those coming to work in the UK must have a job to go to, must speak English and must have accommodation agreed prior to their arrival under Ukip diktat.
Nigel Farage has previously said: “I want to live in a country that is at ease with itself, where we speak the same language.. Where our kids can play football with each other, and we all get on.”
For me I will be voting UKIP in spite of the demonisation, misinformation, nonsense and attacks at the party.
Peace, im off.
Rich
May 6, 2015
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1114/051114-economic-impact-EU-immigration a study by clever people which shows your wrong!
A UKIP distributor and voter
May 7, 2015
I am not suggesting that migrent workers want come to the UK to claim benifits, the UCL is a pro-eu funded university, has been wrong on other pro-eu properganda such as climate change when many scientists have stated they were wrong, the claim is an excuse for carbon and green taxes charged on its EU member state.
Consider a study from other clever people who say contrary In actual fact the UK Universities has benifited from non-eu students compared to EU students
http://www.hepi.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Exposuretointernationalstudentmarket.pdf
Other reports from other clever people would suggest the oposite to what you published as one link including the very clever people from a scottish university
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/news/warning-over-eu-research-budget/2015473.article
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/education/university-warning-over-eu-students.124047786
A SCOTTISH university has issued a warning over the rise in the number of students from the European Union.
While stressing the threat had not yet materialised, Glasgow University said it was concerned the well-documented increase could lead to a decline in the number of Scottish students.
The rise is important because EU students compete for the same places as Scots and the estimated £80 million cost of educating them is the responsibility of the Scottish taxpayer.
In the last few years, the overall number of Scottish students in higher education has increased, but numbers have declined in some institutions because EU students tend to apply to the country’s most prestigious universities.
A statement from Glasgow University on its targets for 2015/16 stated: “Applications from Scottish domiciled students to study in the university remain healthy and have grown substantially from the EU since 2012/13.
“We have concerns that healthy application rates from EU students will begin to reduce the number of Scottish domiciled students at the university.”
A spokesman added: “Based on current applications the concerns that we expressed have not materialised.”
The warning comes after Scotland’s oldest university issued a warning that moves to recruit more pupils from disadvantaged backgrounds is discriminating against the middle classes.
St Andrews University, in Fife, also claimed the policy means students with better school qualifications are being pushed out.
Three years ago the Scottish Government instructed all universities to increase the number of students from the poorest 40 per cent of communities.
A document setting out the Fife university’s targets highlights an increase in the proportion of poorer students over the three years from 8.6 per cent to 13.5 per cent – a rise from 41 to 96 students.
However, the document states such students can have significantly lower academic tariff scores than other pupils, in part because of a lack of access to Advanced Highers.
It also highlights the fact the Scottish system of funding higher education from the public purse rather than tuition fees effectively caps the number of Scottish students who can go to St Andrews, where Prince William studied.
“The prevailing policy both to limit funded numbers for Scottish students and to prioritise admission of Scottish students with potentially lower tariffs is inevitably to the disadvantage of those Scottish applicants with higher tariffs who wish to study at St Andrews,” the document states.
“Due to the unexpectedly high number of Scottish entrants in 2014/15, it is anticipated that the total number of Scottish-domiciled entrants will be significantly lower in 2015/16.”
Where the EU does not benifit.
http://universitypost.dk/article/eu-budget-warning-erasmus-programme
http://www.mediafhe.com/university-heads-warning-over-damaging-plans-to-cut-horizon-2020
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-32257724
An very clever university proff says your wrong Prof David Abulafia, a Cambridge University don, warns school textbooks are ‘papering over’ historical differences between European nations to promote further integration
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11432847/Millions-of-children-being-taught-distorted-view-of-European-history-to-push-further-EU-integration.html
So what is happening read the following
http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3780258.htm
http://corporateeurope.org/
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dd5d68ee-d49e-11e4-a87e-00144feab7de.html
http://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/knowledge/events/125785/eu-tax-probes-and-tax-leaks-are-you-exposed
Your friends at UCL have missed out one big factor
http://www.brugesgroup.com/CostOfTheEU2008.pdf
By 2008 Britain will have made total contributions to the European Community (EC)
Budget of £230.4 billion gross or almost £68.2 billion net.
By the end of the current EC budget period Britain will have made estimated total
contributions to the EC Budget of £315.4 billion gross and £101.4 billion net
2007 Britain had an accumulated trade deficit with the other EU member states of
£383.7 billion
The Common Agricultural Policy costs Britain at least £16.8 billion per annum.
• The Common Fisheries Policy costs Britain at least £3.275 billion per annum.
• Over-regulation on business costs Britain at least £28 billion per annum.
• In 2008 membership of the European Union costs Britain almost £65.675 billion
per annum gross or almost £55.775 billion per annum net
This equates to:
Gross
£ 5.472 billion per month
£ 1.263 billion per week
£ 180 million per day
£ 7.5 million per hour
£124,952 per minute
Net Cost
£4.648 billion per month
£1.073 billion per week
£152.8 million per day
£6.367 million per hou
£106,117 per minute
That is the equivalent for every man, woman and child in Britain of £1,077 per annum
gross or £915 per annum net.
Or the equivalent for every tax-paper in Britain of £2,119 per annum gross or £1,799
per annum net.
As Britain enters what could be the most serious economic crisis since 1929 this
money would be much better spent in Britain for the benefit of the British economy and people.
Personally I would rather go along the EC budget and be part of that then the EU your friends figurs in the report is not that honest.
JGJones
May 8, 2015
Dear A UKIP distributor and voter
Good response there.
However I care deeply about climate change. I’ll like to hear about your claim “climate change when many scientists have stated they were wrong, the claim is an excuse for carbon and green taxes charged on its EU member state.”
Um…what scientists is that please? All I’m seeing is that many many many scientists around the world, not just in EU all are saying that we are having an impact on the climate.
Nigel Farage’s “evidence” was to hold up two photographs of ice cap growth between 1 year at a EU parliament meeting which is frankly just sheer nonsense.
UKIP often denies that there’s climate change so…what’s your evidence please?
Oh Dear
May 6, 2015
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/election2010/results/
Take a look at the results of the 2010 election.
UKIP was the fourth biggest party in terms of votes, and BNP fifth. The voters tend to be former Tories. It is thanks to those two parties that the Tories didn’t get a majority outright in 2010. The cuts would have been more draconian.
UKIP wants to get rid of private companies doing benefit WCA, etc, and revert back to the doctors making the assessment, like it once before the Labour party brought ATOS into the system.
This election has been the most boring mind-numbing election ever. So many TV debates, news, arguments……. yet….. how often was the policies for disabled people brought up. Very very little.
A UKIP distributor and voter
May 7, 2015
Oh Dear, You are most correct Rich will always stand for one of the three established parties no matter what you show him this is the same properganda we get from the Lib/Con/Lab/SNP/Green parties.
A UKIP distributor and voter
May 7, 2015
I also would research the greens, this is where they stand
Abortion
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The Green Party states it will not support any restrictions to current abortion law.
250 Caroline Lucas voted against explicitly banning sex-selective abortion in 2015
If your religous you this will effect you
Equality
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The Green Party launched an LGBT manifesto in 2010 wanting to amend the
Equality Act 2010 to bring in homosexual and transsexual harassment laws
. The Greens oppose all religious liberty exemptions from equality and anti-discrimination laws.
Prostitution
– The Green Party wants to decriminalise prostitution.
Gambling
– Caroline Lucas has opposed fixed-odds betting terminals (FOBTs) and asked
the Government to review the Gambling Act 2005.
etc
http://policy.greenparty.org.uk/rr.html
Rich
May 6, 2015
Look people, do you own investigations, read around the subject, google questions and read articles then make up your own mind who is rally standing up for you. Personally from what I’ve read and the interviews I’ve seen UKIP are not standing up for the people. So you might fancy a pint down the pub with Nigel F but that doesn’t mean he can run the country, just remember he went to private school just like the other leaders, he worked in the city and he has links to big business. He isn’t for the people in my opinion.
Look what they have to say about the cuts to public spending, they are still waiting for them to happen, this doesn’t sound like a party about to invest in our public services, more likely to privatise to Nigel’s chums and old school buddies so they can all make a fast buck off our public services.
No one can tell you who to vote for, vote for what you feel right, but please don’t fall for the lies they are telling you, do some research and check out what you are voting for.
Personally I am voting for the greens, but only because we don’t have a TUSC candidate in my area. I want investment in public services, I believe that railways and utilities should be taken back into public ownership.
If you don’t like what the ConDems have done over the past five years then voting for a party to the right of them (UKIP) is going to bring you more of the same only worse.
If you rely on any type of benefits then voting for the likes of UKIP is only going to see those benefits for the disabled (as we have seen with Iain Duncan Smith) being further cut and taken away.
Vote tomorrow and good luck.
Jacqueline
May 8, 2015
YES YES YES Nigel Farage Fails to win seat!!!!!!!