Applying for a new job? Application filled in. Question: am I disabled? Which one? Write down ‘deaf’ or not? Answer: ‘deaf and need a sign language interpreter.’ Application sent, at a click of a button.
And then there is a reply. A job interview? No. Not selected. Why? “Health and safety law”.
Has this happened to you? Have you ever applied for a job only to be turned down and told you were unsuitable for a post, because of ‘health and safety’?
It has a hint of an offence in the statement whereby the physiology of a deaf person is deemed as neither ‘healthy’ nor ‘safe’, and yet health and safety law, which is there to protect employees in the workplace, is used as a tool to inflict harm.
A means to force a person not to apply for a job, not because of their skills and experience, but due to their physical differences.
Like all offences, they quickly turn sour and the applicant is left with a bitter taste in their mouth; “health and safety” is accompanied with a string of expletives.
We are in the midst of an referendum on the British membership of the European Union and the vote is just over a week away and yet ‘health and safety’ has reared its head once more.
“Did you know that the EU created health and safety?” “EU is the reason why I can’t get a job.” “EU supports the employer and not me.” There are calls to vote for Brexit in order to give deaf people so-called ‘more rights’ in the work place.
A good friend, Helen, felt compelled to put our deaf peers right in a Facebook group set up specifically for the EU referendum, and provide information in BSL. “Health and safety can not be used to prevent you from getting a job.” “That is not the purpose of Health and Safety laws.”
She is right. Health and Safety Executive (HSE) published a document stating, “Health and safety legislation should not prevent disabled people finding or staying in employment and should not be used as a false excuse to justify discriminating against disabled people.”
The guide reminds the employer, “They know about the job and how the way it is done can impact upon them, and they are likely to have good ideas about how to change things to make the situation better.” Yes, people like you and me are allowed to tell the employer how we think we can do the job we are applying for.
Health and safety has been used as an excuse to not employ a disabled person, even when the disabled person thinks they can do the job they have applied for.
But HSE recognises it is happening, “Health and safety is sometimes used as an excuse to justify discrimination against disabled workers. This should not happen.”
In actual fact, the EU has passed resolutions and directives that support the needs of disabled people, their rights to employment and their rights for reasonable adjustment in the workplace. Without the EU, disabled and deaf people’s lives would be far worse.
Deaf people are campaigning to leave the EU on the basis of a lie. A lie started by employers abusing the Health and Safety law to do the dirty deed; to prevent the employment of deaf people.
Can I just say that people are free to vote for Brexit or Bremain and it is up to all of us to find our own reasons as to why we should vote to stay in or leave.
But to use a lie as a reason to leave the EU, when it does good, is bordering on the ridiculous. And we need to put the lie back where it belongs, with the rogue employers who use them.
John Walker is a Teaching Fellow at University of Sussex and PhD student in Social Geography. Deaf, and sign language user by informed choice. He writes a blog on topics related to the Bourdieusian principle, by the title “Deaf Capital” . It is concerned with the ‘value’ that people place on the Deaf community or the cultural elements of deaf lives that can be askew or misconstrued. Follow him on twitter as @chereme
Cathy
June 14, 2016
Well, well, well, this is exactly what has just happened to me!
I took a firm to court for discrimination and all they banged on about was “Health & Safety”.
The job was care work and they claimed I would not hear someone shout me from another room ( with my hearing aids: I would!). They claimed stroke victims cannot be lipred, so I’d put them at risk. Even though stroke victims often lose power of speech, which means hearies wouldnt understand them either, they didn’t listen to a word!
They claimed clients “health & safety” would be at risk because I wouldn’t be able to hear them against background noises: washing machine, TV or radio! Their whole argument was based on “sounds” and that I could not hear anything!!! Flaming cheek, telling me what I can and can’t hear!!
Health & Safety is largely a joke! And Deaf people are rarely going to get jobs with that around!!
And just for the record: am voting OUT! The EU have done my head in for long enough!!!
Barbara
June 14, 2016
Health and safety regulations and laws will be in place regardless of whether or not the Uk is in the EU. To base your vote on that issue is, I would argue misguided.
Unfortunately Employers have ample grounds on which to question the competence or capability of deaf workers and will use every trick in the book. As a former trade union rep I have helped deaf staff fight these underhand tactics using disability discrimination law – in is enforceable across the EU because we are in the EU.
Cathy
June 14, 2016
Barbara, my decision to vote out of the EU is not based on health n safety, whatsoever. So I am not misguided even if others are!
Iam voting out to escape all the madness! The EU make 60% of our laws! Why?? Are we that limpwristed?!? I dont think we are! We cannot deport undesirables so we are the dumping ground for the world’s murderers and rapists etc. That is fundamentally wrong! We have a human Rights Act, which doesn’t even help me get a job, but foreigners use it to stay here even when they have mown a child down and driven off leaving them for dead!! That is what am sick of!!!
Getting out of the EU means we can really start standing up for ourselves and Deaf people could get jobs based on trial periods to prove their critics wrong!
I firmly believe we are much better out and any laws will still have jurisdiction in Britain, we do not need the EU to hold our hand!
Barbara
June 14, 2016
I note you use the blanket term foreigners instead of EU migrants which suggests you don’t understand where and how migration to this country takes place and which migrant groups would be affected by Brexit. Or maybe you don’t care – you’re just on an anti foreigner rant.
As the child of ‘ foreigners’ from the Caribbean who arrived in the Uk on British overseas passports as part of the post war migration – I get where this is going. Perhaps this is why your employer doesn’t think you’re suitable for care work – aren’t you likely to have to work with ‘foreigners’ at some point (god help them!)
Cathy
June 14, 2016
Barbara, for your information I am half African, althought born here. I care very much about Britain and the numbers we are trying to absorb are getting beyond ridiculous for this tiny island! It doesnt matter whether people are from the EU or not they are STILL foreigners.
As for the employee they sang my praises saying I was an excellent candidate! Their only worry was my deafness putting clients at risk, so that puts your suggestion firmly to bed!
Barbara
June 14, 2016
Well, after that bombshell….
It actually makes your argument even more problematic, if not bizarre. It’s a form of self hatred.
Don’t you realise that to many British people you’re a foreigner too?
I would be very worried having someone with that mindset ‘caring’ for my loved ones when at their most vulnerable. Much prefer a caring, compassionate professional from Poland, Romania, Africa, Caribbean etc any day.
Cathy
June 14, 2016
So what “mindset” do you reckon I have Barbara??
That Iam half white and a proud born bred Brit? Is that a bad “mindset” to have? Thousands will be the same as me!!
Or you expect me to have your “mindset” where foreigners come first and the British come last!!! I don’t think so!!!
It is time the British were actually thought about, after being “shoved to the back” all these years!!!
And you can’t say Iam not caring when you have never met me!!! You don’t have a clue what kind of person Iam and being a proud Brit does not make anyone uncaring whatsoever!
I would love a Brit to be looking after me in old age, absolutely no problem. Are the British not the ones who need the jobs after all? I think you’ll have to agree they are.
John David Walker
June 14, 2016
Did you win the court case?
Cathy
June 14, 2016
No, John, I didn’t! It was biased from the start! I was also disadvantaged because the other side’s Solicitor was able to listen AND write; I obviously could not!!
Have to wait for the judgement. Appeals are strict and based around certain criteria. So it will be 2 or 3 weeks before I know what moves can be made. Most unfortunately.
ohdear
June 14, 2016
“In actual fact, the EU has passed resolutions and directives that support the needs of disabled people, their rights to employment and their rights for reasonable adjustment in the workplace. Without the EU, disabled and deaf people’s lives would be far worse.”
This is an outright lie. Laws on disability started during the world war 2 called the Disabled Persons (Employment) Act 1944. This established a quota of 3% of employees to be disabled because of the number of disabled people caused by the war. Since the 1970, more disability laws were introduced and certain benefits such as attendance allowance and SDA. This has been ongoing including the 1995 disability discrimination act. All this was done before the EU and had nothing to do with the EU. The rest of EU are behind the UK. If we leave the EU, then the laws will still exist. Foreign disabled people come here because they know the UK is a soft touch and can get more benefits here than anywhere else. This is self-evidence. Disabled poeple don’t go rushing into Romania, Africa or elsewhere do they?
“Deaf people are campaigning to leave the EU on the basis of a lie.”
Sorry John, but [I don’t agree].
Barbara
June 14, 2016
Again with the ‘foreigners’! Last I heard Africa is not in in EU.
EU regulations strengthened the schedule of obligations imposed on employers and service providers.
These rights are enjoyed by deaf people across the EU – I know that my daughter has accessed services in France, Spain and the Netherlands – the same as she would at home.
Cathy
June 14, 2016
Are you sure you are “with it”, Barbara?
EU regulations have strengthened absolutely nothing!!! If they had, why did I end up taking a company to court for discrimination?! It is a smokescreen!
Other Deaf people have also been discriminated against at work. There is no legislation that has made a real difference to the working lives of Deaf people, as far as am aware.
Such weak legislation is no reason to remain in the EU. It does not work and never has, people only THINK it works!
ohdear
June 15, 2016
“Last I heard Africa is not in in EU.”
I never said it was. “Foreigner” is just a word – do grow up.
“EU regulations strengthened the schedule of obligations imposed on employers and service providers.” Don’t make me laugh.
Cathy
June 14, 2016
I agree with you, Oh dear. Many hundreds of deaf people on Facebook and thousands of hearies are planning to vote to leave the EU on 23rd June and the polls show the difference between Brexit and remainers is widening in Brexit’s favour, everyday!
The real reason Brexit is powering forward is due to immigration NOT health n safety!! This little island cannot continue to add ever more numbers of people to its shores.
Parents cannot get their children in the same school: one mother has to drive miles in one direction n miles in the other, then drive to work!! How utterly stupid is that???
The NHS is imploding under the weight of numbers. I recall a GP who had put a notice on his door to the effect of saying he was resigning he could take no more and this was way back last year!!
Australia is huge, our island is 30 times smaller than theirs, so what the heck are we doing with 65m people while in Oz they have less than 25m!! How crazy is that???
So whether matters are based on a lie or not: immigration is not a lie and never was! We cannot afford to allow more n more to pour in with no control until we do the same as Germany where they ask long standing residents to leave their home, even with a perfect rent record, so an immigrant can move in!!!
That is a serious travesty of justice and whatever we do THAT must NOT happen here!!
BREXIT on 23rd June!
John David Walker
June 14, 2016
I don’t think those legislations are exemplary and afford disabled people with the rights they have today. Without the EU, it would be difficult to continue the present situation, which is being eroded by this government, and they are under investigation from the UNCRPD. I don’t see how leaving the EU will help matters except to further erode our rights. Unfortunately, the Leave campaign has said nothing to state otherwise. But the point of this article is that deaf people’s positions are distorted because of a lie from employers. Shouldn’t we now correct that mistake and let deaf people know how their rights are linked with the EU membership!
Cathy
June 15, 2016
John, I understand where you are coming from, but I honestly, do not feel empowered by “our rights are linked with the EU membership”.
I realised with my court case that “health n safety” trumps Deaf people’s right to work. Is the EU going to help with this scenario? Hardly.
We are left to battle alone and grapple between all the legislation the EU has lumbered us with! How I get through my situation I have no clear idea. For example how do I prove I could hear somebody talking over a washing machine? I can! But how do I prove that in court?
The other sides Solicitor made a “Dog’s dinner” out of “health n safety” even though I had good counter arguments.
Am sorry John, but the EU have left us in a quagmire along with all the other problems we have.
In simple terms, we are lumbered with tons of red tape, no choices & no help! That is absolutely no good. It is time to say “Goodbye” to the EU. We are far stronger and better than this!
ohdear
June 15, 2016
John, what rights do you refer to? The main problem with people like you is that the word ‘rights’, makes you go all giddy. In economics there is a theory of “what is seen and unseen.” Yes you can see the ‘rights’ but can you see what is unseen. Understanding the law of cause and effect of the ‘rights’ and how it works in the real world, most ‘rights’ do nothing to advance the disabled people in the field of employment. You need to stop hero-worshipping the EU. Facts – laws on disability in UK were done without the EU involvement.
“Shouldn’t we now correct that mistake and let deaf people know how their rights are linked with the EU membership!” There is no mistake, it’s you that is mistaken. The laws on disability are on the British statute books and will still be there when we leave the EU. Being in the EU means the chances of disabled people getting employment goes down. For every immigrant that works here, that is one less job for British people, including disabled people. You can not have it both ways. Complaining about being unemployed and discrimination, and for immigrations.
Irene Thomson
June 19, 2016
You’re quite right, Ohdear. disability laws were enacted by governments that existed BEFORE the EU came into being. My main concern (apart from immigration, that is) is that the laws that came into force all those years ago will be repealed by the EU and we will be back at square one (or worse) if we stay in. That is why I will be voting to leave on Thursday.