A deaf man from Slough was told by staff at his local branch of Halifax Bank that he would need to pay a £25 admin fee if he wanted staff to resolve a simple banking problem that people who can hear would be able to do for free.
Mark Hooper, who uses sign language to communicate, visited the Slough branch to transfer some money in person because an earlier transaction didn’t happen.
He was stunned when customer service staff in the branch used a compliment slip to tell him that they would charge him £25 to make the transfer – which he could do for free if he could use the telephone.
Mark, who is a qualified advocate for deaf people, had initially asked for an interpreter to help resolve the problem but was instead asked to bring someone with him – even though the bank’s website suggests that sign language interpreters will be provided on request..
It was then that the member of staff said that they would charge him a £25 admin fee to make his transaction.
Mark says it not the first time that he has encountered this kind of situation in a Halifax branch and the stand-off in Slough’s High Street branch was acutely embarrassing for him.
“This has been four times so enough is enough.” He said.
“I felt frustrated and disappointed. There was no access for me to communicate and when I pointed out the Equality Act they still refused. Who are they to dictate when there is an act (of parliament) to back me up?!”
“My confidence has dropped to go in any of their buildings. It was really embarrassing because it all happened in front of other customers. They wouldn’t have known what it was about, but people are always quick to assume the worst about the customer and not the bank! It was humiliating.”
According to the Equality Act, passed in 2010, banks have to make reasonable adjustments to provide a service to deaf customers. Deaf customers that use sign language can contact the bank online by using a service called Sign Video via Halifax’s website.
Sign Video allows a deaf customer with a computer and webcam to speak to the bank instantly through an online interpreter – but Mark was not told that this service existed.
When it comes to the dealing with deaf people in the branch, the bank’s website claims that interpreters will be provided on request, but it seems not all the staff knew the rules. At the time, Mark believed he was being charged £25 to use an interpreter.
“I told them that I could not make a phone call and asked them to phone for me.” Mark said.
“They ask me for £25 to do that. I disagreed because hearing people can phone call for free. Why do Deaf people have to pay?”
“I also asked for an interpreter but they refused that too.”
Mark has since complained to the bank about his treatment and has been compensated. Halifax have also apologised and agreed to provide Mark with an interpreter free of charge in future as long as he gives two-weeks notice.
Mark can arrange his own interpreter if necessary at shorter notice and Halifax have said that they will cover the cost.
A spokesperson for Halifax bank said: “Halifax would like to apologise for the way in which Mr Hooper’s enquiries have been handled. Halifax prides itself on its quality of service and ability to meet customer’s requirements. We have been in direct contact with Mr Hooper to apologise for his experience and to try and make amends.”
It’s not the first time that Halifax Bank have been in hot water with deaf customers. A prominent member of the deaf community raged on a social media video last year when Halifax customer service staff refused to deal with him via the Sign Video relay service.
Regular readers may also remember how NatWest Bank used a compliment slip to tell another deaf customer that they’d have to pay for their own interpreter.
After this experience, Mark says deaf customers shouldn’t tolerate discrimination from banks. He has some words for other deaf people who might be facing similar problems. He said: “You need to stand up for yourself and inform staff deaf people have the right to access under the Equality Act 2010.”
By Andy Palmer, Deputy Editor. Andy also volunteers for the Peterborough and District Deaf Children’s Society on their website, deaf football coaching and other events. Contact him on twitter @LC_AndyP
Hat tip Des Masterson
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Matt.... STDC
April 10, 2014
Excellent article Mr P
It appears that every Halifax branch is different. Mark originally posted to Spit the Dummy and Campaign for BSL Act and advice was given in relation to previous incidents and the positive results of those incidents. We are pleased with the response on this occasion.
However it appears to be happening more frequently, yesterday we had yet another member posting to our Facebook group about Halifax Bank.
On this occasion she has been told to book her own interpreter, the Halifax have stated they will pay the interpreter fee, however there is an issue…. the person booking the interpreter is contractually obliged to pay.
We can see potential problems with interpreters not willing to confirm bookings without speaking to the authorised “payer”
How easy is it for the interpreter to get through to a bank and speak to the right person? In order to cofirm the booking.
Also the delays are unnecessary, for “quick and easy” issues sign video can be used?
Bob
April 10, 2014
Had a similar experience at Greenwich council – when I went over to ask for an interpreter for a future appointment, they asked me to bring someone along to interpret for me.
Jill
April 10, 2014
Brilliant news! Glad that Mark got an apology and compensation from Halifax. Well done.
Annabel
April 10, 2014
Clearly Halifax “cant communicate by writting” (sic) as they lack not only Deaf Awareness but basic spelling and grammar too. All employees in every workplace should have Deaf Awareness training.
barakta
April 10, 2014
I had very mixed experiences with NatWest where I kept getting spannered by phones and a business account for a non-profit voluntary role I hold. Some branches were very helpful and would make calls for me and would chase up the online banking which kept not being set up. Others were rude and treated me much like the above.
I did complain formally but then got tangled in their complaints procedure where they would repeatedly tell me to phone them, and when I was able to phone them not have anyone who could help me. I threatened them with the Equality Act 2010 and failure to make reasonable adjustments but they stonewalled me and I didn’t have time/energy to fight it at the time.
What is needed is publicity where we take things like this to the press. Get people to understand TextRelay isn’t always optimal for banking (not after NatWest sent £5000 of my organisation’s money to the WRONG recipient and I have transcripts to prove it was them not me and the £50 apology) cos banking employees get confused.
Well done. We should support one another to make complaints and try and follow through to effect actual change.
wes lemaire
April 10, 2014
Same old for Banks. Pick on the vunerable steal PPI off customers. When we screw up its a charge by the bank. They screw up u get some jumped up call centre worker telling you im sorry again an again. Sorry doesnt pay the phone bill or stress u incure to complain. Scum in my opinion rot in hell banks.
Keris
April 10, 2014
Well Done .. I had the same with Halifax as I brought my hearing partner on my behalf n they refuse to accept him as my interpreter , so asked for BSL qualified interpreter and I said that takes days to book 1 … Still refuse , so I TOLD them it’s my right as ism DEAF and can bring who I want on my behalf … stIll REFUSE … Need Deaf Awareness n I went further to complain on a See hear … Got apologise at the end …
Des
April 11, 2014
Hello all,
I note from comments above about problems within the banks. It is important – not to let the banks getting away with these problems!
If the problems happen to you, then take a note on the following:
*date, time of your visit to the bank;
*which branch
*name of bank staff member.
If you have smartphone/tablets with you, look up at the bank’s website for ‘accessibility’ section. If the bank’s webpage says they will provide a BSL interpreter or the equivalent, then show this to the bank staff member; OR
Just go home, look up at the accessibility sections within the bank’s website, print the webpage out and then go back to the bank and show to the bank staff member.
AND see what the bank’s staff member response will be!
Let the Limping Chicken know what happened!
Lana
April 12, 2014
Have someone to contact the newspaper to write about this discrimination. Lloyds Bank made me pay £30 for a transaction which I could not on phone – I am still waiting for a refund!
Donkey
April 14, 2014
guys..you can also use http://www.lloydsbank.com/accessibility/signvideo.asp to “call” lloyds..